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Red Letter Edition

Mahlon H Smith,
Rutgers University

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Luke 11:9-13 Matt 7:7-11 Thom 92
    1 Jesus said:
9 "And I'm telling you:    
ask, 7 "Ask  
and it'll be given to you; and it'll be given to you;  
seek, seek, "Seek
and you will find; and you will find; and you will find."
knock, knock,  
it'll be opened for you. it'll be opened for you.  
10 For   Thom 2
    1 Jesus said:
everyone who asks 8 "Everyone who asks  
receives; receives;  
everyone who seeks everyone who seeks "Those who seek
    should not stop seeking
finds; finds; until they find."
and for the one who knocks and for the one who knocks  
it will be opened. it is opened.  
  9 Who among you  
  would hand a son a stone  
  when he's asking for bread?  
11 Which of you fathers 10 Again, who  
would hand his son a snake would hand him a snake  
instead of a fish    
when he's asking for a fish? when he's asking for fish?  
12 Or a scorpion,    
when he's asking for an egg?    
  Of course, no one would!  
13 So, if you, 11 So, if you,  
worthless as you are, worthless as you are,

 

know how to give know how to give  
your children good gifts, your children good gifts,  
isn't it much more likely isn't it much more likely  
that that  
the heavenly Father your Father in the heavens  
will give a holy spirit will give good things  
to those who ask him?" to those who ask him?"  
Mark 11:24 Matt 21:22 John 15:7
24 "This is why   7 "If you stay attached to me
I keep telling you,   and my words live in you,
trust that you will receive    
everything you pray 22"...and everything  
and ask for, you ask for in prayer ask whatever you want
and that's the way   and
it'll turn out." you'll get it'll happen to you."
  if you trust."  

Composition

This saying cluster divides into two parts. The first (Luke 11:9-10//Matt 7:7-11) reinforces three general commands (ask, seek, knock) with assurance that "everyone" who acts accordingly gets desirable results. The second part (Luke 11:11-13//Matt 7:9-11) focuses more specifically on parental response to a child's requests. The speaker uses two ironic rhetorical questions about the way humans treat their own offspring to argue by analogy that God will answer his children's requests.

Partial echoes of the first but not the second part in other early sources show that these sayings were probably linked first by Q because both involve "asking." But these parallels also raise the question of whether Q composed the first part out of separate sayings. Mark and John present paraphrases only of the assurance that requests will be granted.  Matt 21:22 further paraphrases Mark. Thomas does not mention asking but repeatedly stresses that discovery awaits those who seek.

The original wording of all these sayings is further obscured by variations in the sources. Mark and John describe conditions necessary for requests to be granted, but in different terms. Q's combination of assurance to those who ask, seek and knock was unconditional. Identical wording in Matthew and Luke makes this clear. Yet Matthew and Luke's versions of Q's sayings about parental response to children's requests contain several differences in detail.

Attribution

Ask, seek, knock % Red Pink Grey Black WA Print
Luke 11:9-10
Matt 7:7-8
  17
17
30
32
39
38
13
13
51
51
pink
pink
Ask and receive              
Mark 11:24
Matt 21:22
John 15:7
  7
7
0
20
20
0
47
47
47
27
27
53
36
36
16
grey
grey

black
Seek and find            
Thom 92:1
Thom 2:1
  8
0
32
15
48
58
12
27
46
29
grey
grey
Good gifts              
Luke 11:11-13
Matt 7:9-11
  4
13
44
60
30
17
22
10
44
59
grey
pink

All these sayings have probably been revised to fit different editorial contexts. Textual evidence of this kept most Fellows from voting red on any version. Yet, aspects of Q's cluster, particularly in Matthew's version, are consistent enough with sayings that certainly came from Jesus to print it pink.

The claim that every quest achieves its goal is a gross exaggeration that is patently false if taken literally. But poor people, who are accustomed to having their needs and abilities belittled, need this type of unqualified encouragement. Mark and John have apparently limited the application of such assurance to formal Christian prayers, possibly to avoid the chance that a promise by Jesus might prove wrong. Gnostic Christians, however, sought to encourage mental quests rather than prayer. So, texts like Thomas had reason to stress seeking but not asking. Thus, versions other than Q are rated grey at best.

On the other hand, Q's sayings about parents responses to children's requests are so similar in style to other sayings of Jesus that almost three fourths of the Fellows consider them essentially genuine. The rafter in the eye (Luke 6:41-42//Matt 7:3-5) and grapes on thorns (Luke 6:44//Matt 7:16) present similar ridiculous comparisons in the form of rhetorical questions. Matthew's pairing of bread and stone is clearly related to Q's account of Jesus' testing (Luke 4:3//Matt 4:3). The Fellows were undecided whether the story influenced the saying or vice versa.  They are agreed, however, that Luke's reference to the Holy Spirit (11:13) was a later Christian  attempt to spiritualize a saying that originally concerned food.

 

 

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  • This report was composed in 1991 to introduce lay readers to the results of the Jesus' Seminar's voting on the probable authenticity of sayings ascribed to Jesus in Q.  That projected volume was abandoned when the author's notes on Q were incorporated into the Jesus Seminar report on all Five Gospels (1993).  These pages are published here for the first time.

  • All gospel quotations are from the new Scholars Version Translation.

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