Luke 11:9-13 |
Matt 7:7-11 |
Thom 92 |
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1 Jesus said: |
9 "And I'm telling you: |
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ask, |
7 "Ask |
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and it'll be given to you; |
and it'll be given to you; |
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seek, |
seek, |
"Seek |
and you will find; |
and you will find; |
and you will find." |
knock, |
knock, |
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it'll be opened for you. |
it'll be opened for you. |
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10 For |
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Thom 2 |
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1 Jesus said: |
everyone who asks |
8 "Everyone who asks |
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receives; |
receives; |
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everyone who seeks |
everyone who seeks |
"Those who seek |
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should not stop seeking |
finds; |
finds; |
until they find." |
and for the one who knocks |
and for the one who knocks |
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it will be opened. |
it is opened. |
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9 Who among you |
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would hand a son a stone |
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when he's asking for bread? |
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11 Which of you fathers |
10 Again, who |
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would hand his son a snake |
would hand him a snake |
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instead of a fish |
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when he's asking for a fish? |
when he's asking for fish? |
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Or a scorpion, |
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when he's asking for an egg? |
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Of course, no one would! |
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13 So, if you, |
11 So, if you, |
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worthless as you are, |
worthless as you are, |
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know how to give |
know how to give |
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your children good gifts, |
your children good gifts, |
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isn't it much more likely |
isn't it much more likely |
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that |
that |
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the heavenly Father |
your Father in the heavens |
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will give a holy spirit |
will give good things |
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to those who ask him?" |
to those who ask him?" |
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Mark 11:24 |
Matt 21:22 |
John 15:7 |
24 "This is why |
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7 "If you stay attached to me |
I keep telling you, |
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and my words live in you, |
trust that you will receive |
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everything you pray |
22"...and everything |
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and ask for, |
you ask for in prayer |
ask whatever you want |
and that's the way |
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and |
it'll turn out." |
you'll get |
it'll happen to you." |
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if you trust." |
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Composition
This saying cluster divides into two parts. The first (Luke 11:9-10//Matt
7:7-11) reinforces three general commands (ask, seek, knock) with assurance
that "everyone" who acts accordingly gets desirable results. The second part
(Luke 11:11-13//Matt 7:9-11) focuses more specifically on parental response
to a child's requests. The speaker uses two ironic rhetorical questions
about the way humans treat their own offspring to argue by analogy that God
will answer his children's requests.
Partial echoes of the first but not the second part in other early sources
show that these sayings were probably linked first by Q because both involve
"asking." But these parallels also raise the question of whether Q
composed the first part out of separate sayings. Mark and John present
paraphrases only of the assurance that requests will be granted. Matt
21:22 further paraphrases Mark. Thomas does not mention asking but
repeatedly stresses that discovery awaits those who seek.
The original wording of all these sayings is further obscured by
variations in the sources. Mark and John describe conditions necessary for
requests to be granted, but in different terms. Q's combination of assurance
to those who ask, seek and knock was unconditional. Identical wording in
Matthew and Luke makes this clear. Yet Matthew and Luke's versions of Q's
sayings about parental response to children's requests contain several
differences in detail.
Attribution
Ask, seek, knock |
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Red |
Pink |
Grey |
Black |
WA |
Print |
Luke 11:9-10 Matt 7:7-8 |
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17 17 |
30 32 |
39 38 |
13 13 |
51 51 |
pink pink |
Ask and receive |
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Mark 11:24 Matt 21:22 John 15:7 |
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7 7 0 |
20 20 0 |
47 47 47 |
27 27 53 |
36 36 16 |
grey grey black |
Seek and find |
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Thom 92:1 Thom 2:1 |
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8 0 |
32 15 |
48 58 |
12 27 |
46 29 |
grey grey |
Good gifts |
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Luke 11:11-13 Matt 7:9-11 |
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4 13 |
44 60 |
30 17 |
22 10 |
44 59 |
grey pink |
All these sayings have probably been revised to fit
different editorial contexts. Textual evidence of this kept most Fellows
from voting red on any version. Yet, aspects of Q's cluster,
particularly in Matthew's version, are consistent enough with sayings that
certainly came from Jesus to print it pink.
The claim that every quest achieves its goal is a gross
exaggeration that is patently false if taken literally. But poor people,
who are accustomed to having their needs and abilities belittled, need
this type of unqualified encouragement. Mark and John have apparently
limited the application of such assurance to formal Christian prayers,
possibly to avoid the chance that a promise by Jesus might prove wrong.
Gnostic Christians, however, sought to encourage mental quests rather
than prayer. So, texts like Thomas had reason to stress seeking but not
asking. Thus, versions other than Q are rated grey at best.
On the other hand, Q's sayings about parents responses
to children's requests are so similar in style to other sayings of Jesus
that almost three fourths of the Fellows consider them essentially
genuine. The rafter in the eye (Luke 6:41-42//Matt
7:3-5) and grapes
on thorns (Luke 6:44//Matt 7:16) present similar ridiculous
comparisons in the form of rhetorical questions. Matthew's pairing of
bread and stone is clearly related to Q's account of Jesus' testing
(Luke 4:3//Matt 4:3). The Fellows were undecided whether the story
influenced the saying or vice versa. They are agreed, however,
that Luke's reference to the Holy Spirit (11:13) was a later Christian
attempt to spiritualize a saying that originally concerned food.